I also remember buying 10 cent stamps that went into a book. own pagan baby! - Nancy K. Read an Excerpt. A different time ; a different place . However, this 2012 article from Catholic News Service might be of interest: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1202140.htm. Needless to say, Zachary stuck. Any questions ? 0 coins. Being a Jewish kid born and raised in South Philadelphia, I never heard about Pagan Babies until I married my Catholic Bride. ). The short-lived dream pop band formed by Kat Bjelland and Courtney Love in 1985 in Portland, Oregon, United States 2. Has anyone else heard this phrase before, and if so, do you remember what it . So how many pagan babies did you sell in Brentwood ? So, pagan baby collections in LaCrosse , too ! MISSION CALLArchbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, apostolic nuncio to the United States, right, was among the notable guests at the first World Mission Dinner. My mother thought that those nuns were as close to God as we would ever get on earth. I also had a more personal reason for hitting the $5 markthe point at which you actually saved a baby and got naming rights. Contrary to popular belief, the United States fails to live up to its promised values of freedom and fairness. The novel begins in Rwanda.The protagonist is a priest named Terry Dunn. In three years, we bought sixthree boys and three girls. Diane, I went Catholic school in NJ and yes, we had pagan babies! 1:16). Servant of God Mother Mary Lange and the Rich History of Black Catholic Religious Orders, Ukrainian Soldier Saved by Praying the Rosary, Priest Recounts, As We Forgive: Lenten Pastoral Note From Archbishop Samuel Aquila of Denver, A Lasting Trail of Light: The Witness of Pedro Ballester. Each classroom was given small cardboard collection boxes . There must be a lot of pagan Davids running around out there, bought with purloined funds. I Googled it because of my conviction that it was an acronym and I just couldnt quite figure out what the E stood for. I believe it helped me get through this crazy life :-)) "I also had a Pagan Baby; I regret to say I haven't kept in touch with him." kids were allowed to give their baby a Christian name. . Yup. You know the drill . I won one month & remember excitement at winning but total confusion & a sense of dread. The missionary spirit was evident as Pontifical Mission Societies honored three people at the May 2 gala. Someone must have Thanks for commenting. if you can open your heart and you want to do something to help, PLEASE donate here to the Gonzalez Family . We sold The Tidings , which was the L.A. Archdiocese newspaper , and there were prizes . "Pagan Babies": Orphan Imagery in the Passionist China Collection and the Emergence of American Sympathy for the Chinese in the Early Twentieth Century Margaret Kuo Published 3 July 2019 History The Chinese Historical Review The rice they used was really good which I think defeated the purpose since a lot of kids looked forward to it, myself included. No pagan babies, just for the hungry, I think. And of course, there was competition between the classrooms. (CCC 1213). . Your email address will not be published. 2000 Elmore Leonard, Inc. (P)2000 Recorded Books Inc. Unabridged Audiobook. It seemed like an almost daily ordeal for the class nun to individually quiz each student, asking if they had made a contribution on that particular day. Sign-up for E-NewsletterGet Register Updates sent daily or weeklyto your inbox. We also collected money in Sunday School for the missions, but we still didnt get to name anyone. None of my non-Catholic friends ever believed my pagan baby stories, either. St. Paul noted that baptism replaces circumcision and circumcision was for infants. Every month after the money was collected, a students name was "randomly"picked out of a bag with the chosen name becoming the "Pagan Baby of the Month.". In accepting his medallion, Cardinal McCarrick summed up the missionary spirit. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Legion. Im 50, and though Ive heard the term pagan babies (mainly in books by people a little older than me) , it wasnt used when I was in Catholic school from about 1969-77. The rise of AI will generate cultural content designed not to be original or even to say anything, but to produce, like a drug, the same experience, again and again. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ (Gal 3:27). Names chosen for each baby were REQUIRED to be the names of bonefide saints, beatified by process through Rome. Thanks for a trip down memory lane and validating my recollection. We'd all suggest names, and then vote for the one we liked best. We did that too. When five dollars was collected the box would go.somewhere ..and a new box would be folded out by the teacher . Yes, as a lesson for us to be generous the Pagan Babies idea may well have been beneficial . Never heard the term. "Baptism . I dont know what state you were in at the time, but I have lived in California for the last 60 years. At every Catholic school in those days were I have no idea what spurred me on this morning to do a search for Pagan Babies maybe I was trying to recall my first exposure to racism. and if we sell ten of them , Charlie continued unperturbed , we get a pencil case ., And if we sell twenty , we get something else that none of us really wants . And once, the guy who considered himself the smartest kid in the class proposed the name Jean-Pierre. Over 50, attended Catholic schools from 1970-77 in Latin America. I think most of them were in Africa and India. I served lunch to old people and I received so many compliments from the old people that I thought that I was a goner . Please email comments to [emailprotected] and join the conversation on our Facebook page. I could never shake the idea that he was stealing it (but I guess that suggests more about my character than about his). One of my fellow employees is reading a book called Pagan Babies. Some we're pretty outrageous!" My vocation has been in education, and in the thirty-plus years since my summer in Mexico I have accompanied students on many short sojourns to the front lines in Tijuana, Nicaragua, El Salvador, East Los Angeles, New Orleans. talking about!" babies. My nephew's school is doing "Pennies for Puerto Rico". Christians have always believed that baptism is the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. What did they really think about it ? Each time I hope to combine for them the Holy Childhoods call of responsibility with the lessons I learned in Guaymas: the difference between pity and solidarity, the complexity of the global structures that create poverty and need, and the smallness of our efforts at making a difference. Did the Catholic Schools consider Jewish People Pagans? There was excitement in the air . Happy Fathers Day! Yet, I wonder, if I had not saved those pagan babies, would I have had the confidence and motivation to go to Mexico? Im still a San Franciscan, but boy has everything changed. Each was presented with a medallion featuring a representation of the papal keys. Good hunting , though . The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. Hosted a supper the other night for some friends from church. Named mine Margaret Ann. Im thinking that was awful high up for our Sister, so maybe the janitor had to do it for us. Anybody have some spare change ? I remember those statues . Years later Larry Bye , another boy in the class , told me that his middle name was Herman and that he had been embarrassed when Cary chose the name Herman for the pagan baby. At every Catholic school in those days were collections to save unbaptized children not taught about God (Pagan Babies). Many of those kids still have their adoption certificate, like Bob That reflects a certain dignified sincerity on your part , I think . Steve, Thanks for the kind comment . UNICEF is the United Nations Childrens Fund. Should they be angry or should they just feel anguish for the sorry state of the religion these days ? Dell Publishing, $24.95 (272pp) ISBN 978--385-33392-4 The opening paragraph depicts a corner of hell on earth: a church in Rwanda after the recent. The church doesnt have a mission. Thanks for the comment . In Catholic school in San Francisco in the Sixties, we also collected for the pagan babies daily, and got to name the baby once we had five dollars. class voted on names. The mission has a Church, Cardinal Dolan reminded his guests in his opening remarks. J. OBrien. I dont remember collecting money for them. Oh, yes, I remember raising money to save pagan babies. The Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii) Jason Woycke 9 subscribers Subscribe 62 Share 2.2K views 5 years ago A compilation of live footage of the Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii). Consider these suggestions for renewing your life in Christ this season. I cant remember now if they ever answered Charlies question . I remember hearing the term too when I attended parochial school (mid 1960s), but by then it had been replaced by the UNICEF boxes. monetization of National Catholic Register RSS feeds is strictly prohibited. While the circumstances, the cost, and the rewards varied from parish to parish, most Catholic children of the 1960s saved at least one pagan baby. What exactly we learned from this could be disputed. Yes , of course , a money-raising strategy that tricked all of us kids I wonder now about our parents . Or for the poor, underprivileged kids in the USA? This is such a funny story to me, I also went to Catholic School in the sixties and I remember raising money for the Pagan babies I dont remember what prizes do we got or anything but now my daughter who is 35 was talking about how Catholics or Pagan worshippers. A bulletin board held the certificates, pinned to the wall. I could fold bandages and scrub floors in the dispensario, change diapers and scrub floors in the orphanage, wash vestments and scrub floors in the churchyou can see the pattern. Everywhere a pagan pagan . As a first grade student at St.Aloysius in Wilkes-Barre, PA circa 1969, pagan babies were part of our extreme Catholic instruction. The salesman had no answer . The campaign will celebrate the legacy of love and support the program offered, and recall the babies with whom American children once connected through the Holy Childhood Association. ETA: and then theres this blog from someone who is completely unapologetic about their participation in the program: http://asksistermarymartha.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-pagan-baby-reunion.html. I will say, Im happy I went to catholic school. I went to Christ the King in Pleasant Hill, CA. I told some Catholic friends about collecting money for Pagan Babies at Dover (Ohio) St. Josephs and they had never heard of such a thing but Im sure we did it. What kind of horrid name is that for a babypagan or not?! decided it was no longer a good way to raise money for Catholic missions. - Betty L. Show. The teacher lobbied for her but I still refused . But the pagan babies were actual children being looked after by missionary sisters, brothers and priests in their countries. I dont remember selling stamps , but a vague memory comes back to me about Christmas stamps . OK, fair enough, it was about charity for this or that African country, but it so much stank of colonialism. Some conspiracy mongers doubted the existence of the pagan babies, even suggesting that the sisters were raiding the schoolchildrens piggybanks to fill their own coffers or the Churchs. They were wondering how to react . I seriously want to start a band now, just so I can name us that. Subscriber Service CenterAlready a subscriber? Fierce competition existed between some of the nuns as to whose class had the most pagan babies. I remember doing the rice bowl thing during Lent, but I dont remember it being for the pagan babies. We thought up the stupidest , weirdest names we could manage and , as I remember, the teacher wrote that name on the box with the five dollars and it went off to the pagans . ago. It didnt glow , but she was in a sort of a case shaped like a bullet with two doors that could close her in . Aiden/ Aidan: Is of Celtic, which means "little fire." Alun: Alun means "harmony." Albus: This name means "white." Thank God someone sent this information to me and redeemed my sanity. When they reached $5, they then ransomed a child overseas, got a certificate and the right to name the child being looked after by missionary sisters, brothers and priests abroad. He said the priest paused and said, Uh, son, you need to talk to your nun about that in catechism class. But in 1969 the names we fourth graders favored were names like Ringo and Twiggy. Their Pagan Babies: "Lord have mercy! catholic school 1978-1991. I guess our efforts got similarly fierce , but I never got sucked into that . Band Name!! Commonweal's latest, delivered twice weekly. Technically, Jews could not be pagan, because they believe in the same monotheistic god Catholics do/did. Campbell, now retired from the film industry where he worked as a technician, told CNY that hed been enrolled in the Holy Childhood Association since seventh grade and that he remembered adopting babies to get them baptized into the faith. Thanks for the comment . Renew or manage your subscription here. for missions in foreign lands. For whatever reason, we googled pagan baby today.My husband and I thought we were the only two people who remembered pagan babies!!!! Some had a lot more than others. As an incentive for our fundraising, when we raised $5 we were allowed to give a Christian name to a pagan baby. Yeah , a few days later . Dan, Loved your post on the Pagan Babies! James Dingwall picked that name and the girls immediately protested! We were wondering how much trouble Cary would get into . Pope Benedicts Resignation: Debate Continues 10 Years On, Example of Their Lives: 6 American Black Catholics Are on the Road to Sainthood, Ex-Cardinal McCarrick Asks for Dismissal of Sex Abuse Case Against Him, Citing Dementia, Albany Diocese Bans Latin Masses Following New Guidance From the Vatican, What Have the Jesuits Done About Rupnik? Watch for these changes, Eight more pro-life activists for FACE Act violations. Gina Cascone grew up in central New Jersey and is the author of Pagan Babies, Mother's Little Helper, and coauthor of twenty-six books for children. Considering your background , I am honored that you thought my silly little post on pagan babies was worth reading . One time, in the 70s, at an intimate dinner party, we realized the room was filled with about half Catholics who attended Catholic school. This brings back a memory now. Someone must have decided it was no longer a good way to raise money for Catholic missions. Some Irish nuns were there one day to speak to the students . I did the saving bond thing , too . The principal stepped forward , to the rescue , saying coldly , Its a fundraiser for the school . He didnt mention his new stereo system . American Women Quarters 2023 Rolls and Bags - Bessie Coleman MULTI (D) (P) (S) $40.00 - $60.00 Shop Now 22EH American Eagle 2022 One Ounce Gold Uncirculated Coin West Point (W) $2,670.00 Add to Bag 17XA American Liberty One Ounce 225th Anniversary Gold Coin West Point (W) $2,765.00 Add to Bag Coin Sets The teacher had a stack of them . When Father Andrew Small, O.M.I., asked who remembered them at the inaugural World Mission Dinner May 2 at the Pierre Hotel in Manhattan, a few hands went up, mostly belonging to people with gray hair. Gina and her husband raised their two children in New Jersey and now live in Manhattan. I think it has something to do with the "Poor starving babies overseas" that people send money to when they donate at Church, but I'm not sure. More than one-third of millennials now say they are unaffiliated with any faith. When the book was filled, it was turned in for a US Savings Bond. More and more babies are not getting baptized or raised in the faith. Or maybe Pagan Babies: and Other Catholic Memories. I ALSOvividly remember, that the certficates were five dollars each (pretty steep for thr 60s! Remember the "Pagan Babies"? Marymount ? 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